Тренболон

Ланс, если уже читать ИНОСТРАННЫЕ ФОРУМЫ, вот тебе статья, а дальше ДУМАЙТЕ САМИ

Why Is it that when Im on tren My estro is high when I get tested? Seems to be the big question around here lately so I will try my best for you do understand it.

How does the body burn fat naturally, the body does this in 3 ways.
1. By exercises and working out, using fat for energy and carbs (but that’s why it’s best to work out in the morning)
2. When your body is hot heating up sweating (so exercise again when you blood pressure goes up, and you start to sweat your body burns fat for energy )remember this on.
3. Lastly when your fucking cold, did you know if you wake up and take a cold shower instead of a warm shower you will not only increase your metabolism for the day but you will burn fat, because your body use that energy to protect your organs. (Example if you go to the artic you have to consume 5,000 calories a day just to maintain your weight, why cause your body is using everything to protect the organs.)
Ok enough of the basis of your natural bodies way of burning fat. However, this is the reason why estor is showing up in Tren test. Well how can this be? Well Estrogen is stored in fat cells (big fat guy or girl through the roof in estor)

Well first I will answer some questions—Why doesn’t it show up in Clen or NPP??
Well Clen and NPP do two things 1. Increase heart rate 2. Warm the body. They just do it faster than the body does naturally by itself—however, it is doing it all day like your exercising Clen does it like you’re on a tread mill all day. NPP does it like your outside in 90 degree weather running a track.
But what makes Clen and NPP different than Tren is it is burning fat in a more natural way, when this happen in a natural way, fat is being broken down (not exploded by tren and the extra HC3 compound it has) correctly in the body cause it is happing in a natural way to the body. Sure you’re not exercising but the body thinks you are.

Now on to Tren—see there are two Compounds that have an extra HC3 compound attached to it. One is Tren the other Mast. The difference is Tren HC3 is always connect at any does, where Mast is not until you get to a higher does—(which I will write about later cause before it was thought mast should only be used if you have low body fat well that’s not the case in recent studies when mast is at a higher does, it burns fat and is good for someone that wants to loos fat)

So what happens when Tren Hits the fat cells well it doesn’t use it in a natural way, it attaches to the fat cell and eats it so fast and breaks it down so fast your body can’t keep up with what is going on, and you start to have extra estro floating around. In a natural way, you almost release No estor from the fat cell (which again can been seen all the time in fat people, they start to exercise and lose weight everything in their test goes down.. Including estor levels in guys and their test increase)
So tren is great against fat it doesn’t give a shit it see fat it’s like fucking pac man yummy but it leaves estro behind which sucks but isn’t a bad thing either we got Ai’s and things. Even though I have kept this last secret to myself I will tell you how to lower this.

If you can you should always take proviron on a tren cycle 50mg ED along with your AI. I personal take Aromasion 6.25mg EOD and .25mg of Adex e3d when im on a tren cycle.

I hope this helps. Have any questions PM me.

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После этой статьи хотелось бы опять же увидеть результаты на трене у людей с высоким и низким уровнем жира в организме, а потом уже реально делать выводы!

 

Вот ещё статья!

Progesterone-related gynecomastia: The issue of gynecomastia, Estrogen, and Progesterone are all extremely complex processes that are not 100% fully understood. The truth of the matter is that Progestins are, in vitro and in theory, supposed to inhibit the production of Prolactin at the pituitary and the brain. However, there is much anecdotal evidence and reports from users that Trenbolone as well as Nandrolone indeed do trigger Prolactin release from the brain. Because Trenbolone itself is a Progestin, it also acts on the Progestin receptors on breast tissue. Prolactin receptors exist on breast tissue as well, and so do Estrogen receptors. This combination of Progesterone, Prolactin, and Estrogen can create a large issue of gynecomastia in a Trenbolone user. Prolactin-related gynecomastia from 19-nor compounds is typically seen in the form of lactating nipples alongside breast tissue formation. One of several (or more than one) methods can be used to combat this issue. The first is through the use of a Prolactin-antagonist drug (also known as Dopamine agonists) such as Cabergoline or Pramipexole. These drugs act on Dopamine receptors in the body, which results in decreased Prolactin levels. The second method is to simply avoid the aromatization of other compounds into Estrogen. For example, if Testosterone is used alongside Trenbolone (and it always should be), it is advisable to keep Testosterone at a low enough dose (TRT doses) so that it will not convert into Estrogen, or if larger doses of Testosterone are to be used then an aromatase inhibitor can be run alongside it. Controlling Estrogen levels should also control Prolactin secretion from the pituitary; however it is important to note there are some users that will not respond in such a manner and will still have Prolactin increases in a low-Estrogen environment. What also occurs is that Trenbolone (or Nandrolone) act upon Progesterone receptors in breast tissue and it is through this process that Estrogen receptor sites become far more sensitive to Estrogen (and vice versa – increased Estrogen can create Prolactin receptors that possess increased sensitivity). As a result, even the most minimal levels of Estrogen or Prolactin can trigger the formation of gynecomastia or lactation. Thus, it is always advised that one run a Prolactin antagonist (such as Cabergoline or Pramipexole) or at the very least keep it on hand while using Trenbolone or any 19-nor compound.

 

Ланс, реально, можно хоть увидеть твою форму, чтобы понимать, какие у тебя могут быть причины "недопонимания" тренов.

 

Progestational Activity

It has been reported in other bodybuilding literature that trenbolone does not exhibit any activity as a progestin in the body. I am not certain where this belief originated, as trenbolone does appear to exhibit the classic progesterone receptor binding ability that is characteristic of nandrolone and its derivatives. One study looking at the bovine uterine progesterone receptor for example found trenbolone to be a very potent binder, startlingly even more so than progesterone itself (4). Another looking at the binding of various compounds to the androgen, estrogen, progestin, mineral corticoid and glucocorticoid receptors found trenbolone to be a more potent binder of the progestin receptor than nandrolone (5), a steroid normally noted for its usual activity in this regard.

What does this mean for trenbolone? I don’t think it really means that much. Trenbolone clearly doesn’t cause gyno, water retention or fat buildup, which one might attribute to estrogenic or progestational activity. So whatever slight action it does have as a progestin on paper doesn’t amount to all that much in the real world. The absence of estrogen may be a significant factor, as progesterone is believed to cause gyno by enhancing estrogen’s stimulation of mammary gland growth (6). Perhaps when trenbolone is taken with other aromatizable compounds it could affect a person’s sensitivity level to gyno and water/fat retention. This seems logical, at least in a technical sense, although admittedly I have seen no evidence to support this.

 

Меняет и очень многое, ибо ты говоришь обо всём на своём личном опыте, так вот хотелось бы узнать, от какой базы мы отталкиваемся

 

То, что ты сказал, что ЭТО ВСЁ БРЕД - ахуенный аргумент от тебя. Так же псевдодруг, который с тобой же готовился. Тоже из мира фантастики. Пока что в зеркале ни у кого НИ разу не было недовольств по Фармаком. Всё остальное логически объясняется. Я всё больше начинаю думать, что ты нехуёво тут что то отрабатываешь.

 

Да уж ))

 

Опасно для здоровья в тренажерку ходить. А уровень эстро уже доказано тебе двумя статьями, что очень логичен. У меня есть живые примеры, что люди на наших продуктах растут, сохнут и ахуенно себя чувствуют. Поверь, я сам не менее вас запарился из за этого вопроса, потому что прекрасно понимаю, что за дело мы делаем и что мы в ответе за свой продукт, но, почитав несколько статей, я начал понимать суть. Пока что твой аргумент БРЕД - меня не убеждает.

 

Хочешь сказать, что ИДЕАЛЬНЫЙ Трен ни капли не подымет у тебя эстро, так? Давай предложи мне любую марку, в которой ты уверен, что есть ТРЕН, я её куплю за своё бабло и предложу здесь кому то опробовать. Если анализы будут неутешительные - ты наконец закончишь свою истерию тут. Или давай для начала хоть вермо с новой керамикой, ты ведь УВЕРЕН, что там реально трен, ДАВАЙ?

 

Хм, я рад, что ты так уверен в Альфе, только вот сгавнилась альфа сто лет назад уже, а в Тае я вообще не уверен. За чей ещё трен можно быть уверенным - это балкан. Последний синий БД или Азия - так же верю. А то, что ты пробовал пару банок чего-то и уверено в этом - ну так я рад за тебя. Оставайся при своём мнении, раз у нас с тобой не выйдет диалога. Мои доводы - это мои статьи и мои спортсмены.